Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Homeschooling, Election Injustice, News from the Hill


I've been thinking about homeschooling a bit lately. While the "Classical Approach" seems to be popular among reformed folk, I'm not sure its for me and my house. I could see incorparating parts of it, and it is interesting, but I don't think we'll be doing it. If anyone has any opinion one way or the other, I wouldn't mind hearing it.

Run For Office....Lose Your House

Remember Rick Jore? The Constitution Party canditate who ran for the state house in Montana. While after winning the election, even after several recounts, they stole it from him. Now it seems they are going to take his money and his home as well.

The results of last year's House District 12 election are finally complete. Justice lost.Acting on a court order, the Lake County sheriff on Aug. 31 confiscated the $543.60 from Rick Jore's checking accounts at Community Bank in Ronan. The bank took the remaining $25 in his account as its fee for the transaction. The rest goes to the Meloy-Trieweiler law firm in Helena, the firm that represented the Democratic candidate who won the Nov. 2 election with an appeal to the state Supreme Court.The worst of Jore's punishment is yet to come. An Aug. 25 order from state District Court Judge Kim Christopher of Polson directs Sheriff Bill Barron to collect from Jore a total of $15,663.56 - plus 10 percent interest dating to June 16. Finding but a fraction of that amount in Jore's bank accounts, the sheriff now is supposed to seize $15,119.96 worth of Jore's personal property, moving on to his house or land after that if necessary. For his trouble, the sheriff will collect a final $60 as his fee for taking Jore's money and property.

You can read the rest of this story here.

News From The Hilltop

We are having a bit of a heat wave out here. It was almost 90 yesterday and its going that high again today. Apples are getting ripe. The boys and I ate some yesterday. Plan on making cider with them when they are ready. We did get the roof up on our friends house. Went up pretty good. Leah made some peach jam that I can't stop eating. One of these days she'll put the recipe up on her blog. Meeting with some local folks that are against "Free Trade" tonight. We lost the CAFTA fight but we are gearing up for the FTAA battle.


At 9/13/2005 3:55 PM, Blogger JFC said...


I agree that classical education has some things of real value, but I would be leery about putting all my eggs in that basket. Doug Phillips points out that Biblical education is an endeavor grounded in the relationship between father and son, and any model which places the primary teaching in the hands of a non-parent is a step in the wrong direction. Of course, for those with kids in the government schools, Classical Christian education is certainly a step in the right direction. And there are things to be learned there, (IMO) even by the homeschooled.

Off topic, I've 'gone and done it' -- got my own blog ... the Aspiring Agrarian. Of course, I'm a greenhorn. But I hope some of your readers drop by from time to time.


At 9/14/2005 8:43 AM, Blogger KSmilkmaid said...


This is strictly my opinion. I spent some time in college learning about the classical time period in history. This time period is the height and glory of the Greek empire. Most thinkers at that time were enthralled with the intellect. The focus was so much so that a superiority was placed on intellect and academic activity. Plato and other philosphers come out of this era. We started out using the classical approach. Specifically, The Well Trained Mind by Wise. Reading through the book made it very clear to me that biblical education is not the focus. The focus was Latin, memorization, intellectual skill, logic and math mathematics.

I abandoned this because of the pagan practices I studied in college. It was easy to see through art history, music history and Western Civilization that most of the emphasis on intellect lead to a superiority of man and an inferiority of God. This again is my own opinion. I also abandoned it because I had a huge pride issue. I wanted to produce academically superior images in my children. Every effort I made to have regimented learning was foiled by family life. I finally realized this path was not condusive to a large farming family. We backed off and refocused on biblical education. I want to produce Christ's image in my children rather. We just completed another chapter of Greenleaf Old Testament as History. The chapter was on the journey of Abraham. We also looked up his journey on an Atlas. We read about the promises made to Abraham and the multigenerational vision God had for Abraham. We talked about the rivalry between Jacob and Esau. It was perfect for reinforcing the multigenerational dream we have here for the farm. I just go through explaining to the children the importance of getting along and being able to work for God through the farm while getting along. We also talked about waiting on God and not interfering to mak things happen. This is our kind of school. Draught Horse press has a phenomenal article on the three G's versus the three R's. I posted about it and I am sure you have read it already. We also use Wisdom's Way of learning to an extent. But, no two families are the same and lots of prayer and discernment will lead you to the path God has designed for you and your precious sons. Blessings!!

At 9/14/2005 4:50 PM, Blogger dandmelbram said...


Just a quick note to say thanks for all your help in putting our roof on this past weekend. You and your family have been a real blessing to our family. Praise God.


At 9/14/2005 6:13 PM, Blogger reformed farmer said...


I agree. I would never put them in a school anyhow. Glad to see your blog up and running!


Thanks for the input. I tend to agree with you on the whole thing.


Your welcome. Think nothing of it, thats what friends are for. You folks are top notch, I look forward to many years of fellowship.

At 9/14/2005 9:10 PM, Blogger The BadgerMum said...

My thoughts on this tend to run on at length, so I posted them at my blog.

At 9/15/2005 7:28 PM, Blogger abigail said...

That's some fine-lookin' jam.

You know I'm prone to spewing out a flood of words in blog discussions, so I'll cut this quick. On our next journey to Nanticoke, I would enjoy talking to you and Leah about the ideas you're starting to shape for future schooling. (As you know, John and I plan to use the Trivium as a framework, but I'd love to hear what you plan to implement. One of the many good things about home-schooling is its flexibility, and I'll gleefully snatch any good ideas that can be successfully sewn together.)

At 9/16/2005 12:52 PM, Blogger The Jersey Homesteader said...

I will have to comment on the subject of homeschooling. First I really love to home educate with the classical mind. I watched my oldest fall in the public education system. Through the past 10 years of homeschooling I found out how it can help your child. These are my own experiences, and with God he helped my family with this choice.

At 9/16/2005 4:06 PM, Blogger Puritan Mama said...

Well, Scott, we classically educate, and it's SOLIDLY Biblically-centered. Right now we use Tapestry of Grace, and we add to that the catechism, hymn-learning and scripture memory. Veritas Press is another solidly reformed, Biblical classical system.
For us, the difference between a "regular" education and a "classical education" is that the first teaches you what to think, and the latter teaches you how to think. Although teaching children what to think (indoctrination) is very important, at some point they WILL be out of our grasp and our home and we don't want them to believe just any old thing because we're not there to help them identify faulty logic.
And because a classical education focuses strongly on history, we're able to show our children, from creation till now, the revealing of God's Word to us and how he used the pagan nations to bring Himself glory and the redemption of the chosen to pass. Me, I was public schooled and missed out on HUGE chunks of history, periods when I could have been learning about God's way of bringing all nations and peoples under His dominion for His own glory.
You don't have to teach latin unless you want to, that's the beauty of homeschooling ;)

At 9/17/2005 7:04 PM, Blogger abigail said...

Well-written, Puritan Mama.

I do not believe that the classical method's goal of giving children the tools and training to think and critically evaluate, by virtue of valuing the intellect, devalues our Creator. He is the Giver of intellect, no matter the variance of individual capabilities, and our children should see their capacity for learning as a gift from Him, which can be used in worship of Him first and foremost, in speaking to the unsaved about Him, and in enjoying all the good that He has given us. That having been said, it can certainly be (and has been, I'm sure) valued more than things of utmost value.

Teaching our children about our Lord, His word, and His Bride should be central to their schooling, no matter what the method one chooses, and it's neat to see Scott's readers in agreement on that most important truth even though the external trappings and methodology may vary!

At 9/20/2005 9:08 AM, Blogger reformed farmer said...

Thank you all for the comments. Heidi, I value your opinion a great deal. I will study the clasical education some more.

At 9/23/2005 12:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't see it mentioned but we loved and still reference "Teaching the Trivium" by the Bluedorns. They explain why and how to use the trivium (classical education) from a Biblical worldview. You shouldn't pass this up in your research, IMHO.
Enjoy reading your blog,

At 10/05/2005 4:24 PM, Blogger Walter Jeffries said...

We homeschool and love it. School is always in session. Life is learning. We wake early, do chores (maintenance), then construction in the morning light. During the heat of the day when the sun is high we are inside for book work, paper work and computer work. Some of that is business, some is educational. Everyday everyone gets some educational time. The kids learn more in less time than would be wasted in a public school assembly line education. After the heat of the day we get to go outside again. This works great for our family and we have built our lives around being able to do that together.


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